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(@partha)
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As promised, I wanted to "quickly" cover a few things about backlinks, so wanted to do it bullet point style (I seem to have killed bullet points on Google Docs atm, so just PRETEND that these are in bullet point format 🤣🤣🤣)

 

There is a LOT more to backlinks than this, but I just wanted to get some basic stuff down for you, plus, I've left it open-ended, as I can guess that this may produce more questions than answers.

 

So, if unsure about anything, just ask below and I'll answer (as quickly as possible... promise... I've asked my wife to stop making me go on weekend "holidays" because the weather is lovely 🤣🤣🤣 just in case any of you are wondering where I've been for the last few days, and I KNOW, many of you are waiting to hear from me... I'm coming... promise)

 

Anyway, here's some "thoughts" that I've just put down for you:

 

 

Backlink Bullet Points (without proper bullet points because I broke them 🤣🤣🤣)

  • Backlinks are basically another website linking to your website, look upon it as a “vote of confidence” for your article/website.
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  • EVERYTHING online is a website, so even the Google Search page is a website, Wikipedia is a website, Facebook is a website, Wealthy Affiliate is a website, OpenAI is a website, etc.
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  • The only two types of backlinks you need to really know about are called “Foundational” and “Editorial”
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  • Foundational are typically backlinks that YOU create yourself, e.g. social and forum profiles, RSS feed platforms, web directories, social media platforms, web 2.0 properties, blog comments, etc.
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  • Editorial are backlinks that you can’t create yourself, but will require another website to add them for you, this is generally done via “outreach” (emailing the website owner and asking, and in some cases, paying for backlinks), e.g. guest posts, niche edits, broken link edits.
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  • Editorial backlinks usually carry more weight than foundational backlinks (as you CAN’T create them yourself)
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  • Backlinks can occur “naturally”, but only if your articles are getting traffic.
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  • Therefore, anyone who says “backlinks occur naturally” doesn’t fully understand the process. If an article is NOT getting any traffic, this means people aren’t visiting it, which in turn means that a website owner can’t link to you because they don’t know your article exists.
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  • Therefore, “writing quality articles” doesn’t guarantee backlinks, as if you’re not ranking in Google or getting traffic to that article, from say social media, then NO-ONE will find it (it doesn’t matter how much “quality” that article is, simple common sense, if people can’t find your articles they aren’t going to link to them).
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  • Foundational backlinks also form part of your websites “branding”.
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  • Your “online branding” simply involves putting your website name in the Google Search Bar and seeing how many different platforms “mention” (or link to) your website name.
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  • “Branding” is easiest achieved through creating one paragraph bios and adding this to numerous online platforms that allow you to create a profile, e.g. Facebook, YouTube, Twiiter/X, TikTok, Pinterest, Reddit, Quora, Linkedin, Medium, SubStack, Instagram, Amazon, Spotify, Forums in your niche, etc.
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  • Your bio should look something like:
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  • Partha Banerjee is the founder, owner, and main author at mybodyweightexercises.com. Partha is a qualified Personal Trainer and Certified Strength & Conditioning Specialist. He shares his knowledge of everything related to health and fitness, mainly focused on strength training, cardio, and nutrition.
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  • You would then put your bio through ChatGPT , ask for 25-50 variations that are original and unique, but must include your name and your website address (your “branding” is based on your name and your website name).
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  • One of the main ways to create foundational backlinks is to to use web 2.0 properties, such as WordPress.com, Weebly.com, Wix.com, Blogger.com, LiveJournal.com, Tumblr.com, TypedPad.com, WikiDot.com, Xing.com (i can give you a list of 20+)
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  • These web 2.0 properties are basically blogging platforms, so you are essentially creating new websites and new blogs and then linking back to your own website.
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  • For quick and easy use of web 2.0 properties, choose 5-10 platforms.
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  • Create a “free website” on each platform.
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  • Treat each website as a “real website”, so write articles regularly, add internal and external links to your articles, bookmark/share your articles.
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  • Aim to add one article a week to EACH web 2.0 property, link to external niche-relevant websites, and link each article internally to each other.
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  • Add ONE external link to your own website from 5 articles published to that specific web 2.0 property.
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  • So, if you have created 20 web 2.0 websites, you will have 100 articles total (5 articles over 5 weeks x 20 websites), and 20 backlinks to your website (1 article out of the 5 articles links to your website x 20).
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  • For more in-depth and potentially more authorattiive backlinks from web 2.0 properties actually create an entire website on these platforms.
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  • Therefore, add “2-3 articles” per week to EACH web 2.0 property, DON’T MAKE IT OBVIOUS that the “main backlink” you want is to your website.
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  • So, let’s say that you have a web 2.0 property with 100 articles on it, that 100 internal links and 100 external links.
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  • If you link 5 times to YOUR WEBSITE from those 100 articles, then ensure that you link to another 3-4 (niche-relevamt) websites at least 5 times as well from your web 2.0 articles.
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  • It will look OBVIOUS if you have 100 articles on a web 2.0 property and 90 external links point to your website and 10 links point to 10 completely different websites.
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  • It will look even more obvious if you do this with 20 web 2.0 properties, i.e. 1,800 links pointing to YOUR WEBSITE and 200 links pointing to 200 random websites.
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  • Although, web 2.0 (foundational) backlinks may not be as strong as editorial backlinks, you can “increase the strength” of web 2.0 backlinks.
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  • This is generally achieved by adding a lot of content, getting backlinks to your web 2.0 properties, sharing your web 2.0 articles on social media, and over a period of time the “authority” of your web 2.0 properties will increase.
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  • You can “cheat” “increasing authority” on a web 2.0 property by using the types of backlinks I have mentioned in the Parasite SEO Course Group.
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  • These are “spammy” backlinks in reality, but these web 2.0 properties receive MILLIONS of backlinks per month, so it’s not a s noticeable, and therefore, these “spammy backlinks” actually work on improving rankings (and authority) of your web 2.0 articles/websites.
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  • If you used the same “spammy backlinks” on your website it would be OBVIOUS because you DON’T RECEIVE MILLIONS OF BACKLINKS EVERY MONTH (Google knows exactly what you;re doing, which is why I have said NOT to use the backlinks I’m providing on your websites)
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  • SEO agencies are basically people who have created their own “authority” websites, if you have the time and money you can do this yourself.
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  • These websites are often referred to as Private Blog Networks (PBNs).
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  • PBNs have a bad name and most (unknowledgeable) people will tell you to avoid them.
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  • PBNs are still working well in 2024.
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  • I prefer to call them Private Blog Portfolio, as “network” implies they are “linked together”.
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  • PBNs that ARE “linked together” are what is bad, it is obvious why these were created, and therefore, getting links from them can harm your Google rankings.
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  • For the best PBNs you should have different hosting for each website, different domain registrar for each website, basically DO NOT connect the websites in any way.
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  • For your own SEO agency you would create websites in all the main industries, e.g. Health & Fitness, Business & Finance, Self Improvement, Home and Garden, Pets, etc.
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  • You would then buld these websites as normal, lots of articles, lots of sharing on social media, lots of creating foundational and editorial backlinks to these properties.
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  • Once you have decent “authority” (as an example, DA40←– please remember DA is a moz metric and DR is an ahrefs metric, so NOT Google, but 3rd parties, but Google does have a hidden page ranking system, so we have to work off these 3rd party metrics), you can start offering a backlinks service.
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  • You can “cheat” backlinks by doing this, as the vast majority of people online will look at your DA, and if it’s decent, they will pay you money for backlinks.
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  • In reality, the best backlinks come from a high authority website that has traffic, ranks well in Google, ha traffic from external sources, and everything is “clean” on that website.
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  • Most PBNs that you may wish to purchase backlinks from will be “dirty”, it’s likely they’ll have a decent DA, but because of manipulatitiive practices they have probably been “hit” via a Google Update, they’re getting no traffic, so the backlink is basically worthless (yet, many people would be willing tp pay $300+ for a backlink from a DA70+ websites WITHOUT checking that website with a fine tooth comb ←– the difference between experience and not knowing)
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  • I’ve mentioned “editorial backlinks” require “outreach”, therefore sending an email asking for a backlink.
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  • The “easiest” option is ask whether they accept “guest posts”, as in business you always want agreements to go “both ways”, i.e. you give me something and I’ll give you something.
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  • Next, would be niche edits, whereby you email a website owner and note that they have an article about a particular subject, and within tat article they mention something of interest within that subject, but don’t really go into great detail. You email them, butter them up, talk about the article, mention the “subject they didn’t go into great detail” and then provide a link to your article and say they can link to that if they wish just to ensure their readers have all the information the require.
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  • Next, would be broken link building, which will require a tool like ahrefs. Think about how many EXTERNAL links you’ve created on your articles over the years. Do you ever go back and check to see if they’re live? Imagine you wrote an article 4 years ago about “WordPress plugins”, and then linked from that article to a website that had a list of 1,000 plugins, but that article is no longer online (the owner deleted it), you would NOT KNOW, but now you have a “broken link”. So, by using ahrefs to find broken links on websites in your niche you can email those people, tell them that the link is no loger valid (404), but you have an article on your site that covers the same topic, would they link to you? You’ve done them a favour by pointing this out, as it isn’t good customer experience to click a link and find nothing there.
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  • Next, you have websites that provide citations or have a resources section.(you can find these through simple Google searches, something like “niche name + resources page”), but be careful, you would need to check the “quality” of that website (you actually should be doing this for ALL backlink acquisition), as many websites with “resource pages” or even that OPENLY offer “guest posts”, may have great DA, but it’s likely their quality isn’t that great (why would you need to advertise that you allow “guest posts” or “have a resource link page” if you’re making millions of $$$$$ ?)
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  • The more articles and links a website has the LESS POWERFUL their backlinks will be 
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  • The more articles YOUR WEBSITE has the LESS POWERFUL any incoming backlinks will be.
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  • Basically, if a DA70 website provides you with a backlink (sounds great initially), but they have 10,000 articles on their website and 100,000 OUTGOING LINKS that DA70 is “shared” between every single article.
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  • If a QUALITY DA70 website links to your HOME PAGE and you have 10,000 articles on your website, that DA70 is “shared” between ALL your articles (are you starting to understand why many people create their OWN websites for backlink purposes now?)
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  • Backlinks can be DO FOLLOW, “Hey Google, please pass on some “link juice” to the article or website I am linking to”, or NO FOLLOW, “Hey Google, please DON’T pass any link juice this website or article” 
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  • Most FOUNDATIONAL BACKLINKS are NO FOLLOW
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  • It is important to have a mix of Do Follow and No Follow backlinks, looks more NATURAL (April 24th 2012 was a BIG DAY for this, we had the Google PENGUIN Algorithm update which dealt primarily with backlink spam, very obvious is a website had ALL “do follow” backlinks ←– clearly manipulated. The “penguin update” is now a normal part of the Google SPAM algorithm updates, in much the same way as the “Helpful Content Update” is now part of the CORE update)
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  • Personally, while “do follow” is still “better” I actually think it makes much less difference in 2024 than before, if you steadily and consistently getting a VARIETY of backlinks, regardless of their follow attribute, you can increase website authority, which is a major art of ranking in Google.

   
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That was a lot to take in, Partha. The first part about social media, and forums, I had no problem understanding (since you told me about it inside WA, I don't know if you remember that). 

But when started talking about web 2.0 websites. That's where I got a bit confused. So, if I have gotten this straight (correct me if I am wrong. 

I should create a few free web 2.0 websites, on different platforms. And publish 1 article a week on each of those websites. And externally link to my website through those websites. And if I wanted a bit more powerful backlinks, I should go on social media, and post on there. 

So if this is what I pretty much I need to do. Is there something I should be thinking of? (might have to read everything again, but just want to make sure I do things right.)


   
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@jonathan If you think THIS was a lot to take in, you ain't seen nothing yet.

 

Basically, in order for me to teach you "backlinks" I need to write a separate article for EACH INDIVIDUAL BULLET POINT to explain it properly!!!

 

This is why I haven't really spoken about it much, even though I've wanted to for about 2 years now!!

 

It's like if someone says to me, "Teach me Backlinks", they have made it sound EASY in their mind, but, If I need to write an entire article for EACH of the above bullet points, that's about 100,000 words!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

 

Anyway, start with ONE web 2.0 property, and make it WordPress.com as you're used to using WordPress.

 

Basically, you want to PRETEND that you are building a new website on that platform with NO ULTERIOR MOTIVE.

 

So, the easiest way to achieve this is to treat the new web 2.0 property as though you are building a real niche website.

 

So, you would add, let's say one article a week, each article has an INTERNAL LINK and an EXTERNAL LINK.

 

Let's say after 5 weeks you have 5 articles.

 

That means your "new website" has 5 articles, so 5 internal links (linking to each other) and 5 external links, make sure JUST ONE of those external links points to your website, or an article on your website.

 

If you have the time you'd want to do the same on Weebly, Wix, Tumblr, and Blogger.

 

So, over a 5 week period you have created FIVE web 2.0 websites with 5 articles each.

 

So, that's 25 articles in total, ALL with internal and external links, and ONLY FIVE LINKS (one from each website) points to your "real website".

 

This is very basic web 2.0 backlinks.

 

Obviously, a website, whether "normal" or "web 2.0" won't have a lot of authority with JUST FIVE ARTICLES, but you will still have 5 backlinks coming from these web 2.0 properties.

 

Obviously the more content you add to your web 2.0 websites and the more backlinks you get coming to those web 2.0 properties, the more authoratitive those backlinks become.

 

As an example, in a year's time, if your 5 web 2.0 properties have 100 articles each, and then you also shared each of those 100 articles (on each website) to, hmmmm... let's say 5 different social media platforms, your web 2.0 properites have more content and more backlinks.

 

What's interesting at the moment is a LOT of the web 2.0 properties (that I've mentioned in the original post) are actually RANKING IN GOOGLE.

 

So, essentially, this is the same as getting backlinks from MEDIUM (medium is also a web 2.0 property, the main difference is that Medium has a lot of internal traffic too from members, this won't be the case for most of the other web 2.0 proeprties, but as I say, many of them are ranking in Google anyway)

 

How/What would you create on your web 2.0 properties?

 

Let's say my main website is about Strength Training, where I cover gym workouts and equipment, etc.

 

So, what I would do is to create a web 2.0 property around ONE specific form of strength training.

 

As an EXAMPLE, I may do this:

 

WordPress.com - All Articles about Chest Training x 5 articles

Weebly.com - All Articles about Leg Training x 5 articles

Wix.com - All Articles about Abs Training x 5 articles

Tumblr.com - All Articles about Shoulder Training x 5 articles

Blogspot.com - All Articles about Back Training x 5 articles

 

This way it looks as though I am creating niche websites around one very small topic.

 

Then, from ONE of those articles on EACH website I would either link to my MAIN WEBSITE'S home page, an individual RELEVANT article, or if my categories were similar, I would link to my category page.

 

Additionally, you DON'T want to make it look OBVIOUS, so I would use a few different email addresses and NAMES (just make up author names) to create the above web 2.0 properties.

 

As an example, if your MAIN WEBSITE has your REAL NAME, and then the above 5 properties also have your REAL NAME, and they are all opened under the SAME GMAIL address, well Google isn't stupid, they will KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

 

To be honest, for most people, just use these for foundational backlinks, so just add your 5 articles over a month or so, have ONE article linking to your website, and then move on to the next one.

 

Realistically, there are 1000s of web 2.0 properties that you can create "websites" on and do this, but as I say, foundational backlinks aren't tht strong (btw doing this WILL dramatically improve your DA, so you may see increases in rankings INITIALLY if you do lots of these, but eventually those rankings MAY drop because you're not getting a WIDE VARIETY OF BACKLINKS, but your DA wil remain).

 

For me, if you're after foundational backlinks, get about 25+ social and forum profiles, 5-10 web 2.0 properties with 5-10 articles added over 4-5 weeks, and find at least 10 websites in your niche that allow for comments (where you can link to your website via the "name", in exactly the same way you do comments at WA on websites), and add one comment a day to one website, i.e. 3 comments on 10 different websites per month.

 

Just doing the above consistently for a few months will increase DA, increase authority, and you're more likely to get noticed online (which is when you may "naturally" get more EDITORIAL backinks, i.e. the easier it is to find your name, brand, and content online the easier it is to get "natural backlinks".

 

I bet you're even more confused now!!! 🤣🤣🤣

 

Are you starting to understand when someone says to me, "Teach me backlinks" I ignore them... it's a bit like asking a heart surgeon to talk you through doing heart surgery is less than 10 minutes!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣


   
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@partha Ok, I guess I understand this quite well. 

And yeah now I understand why you ignore the "teach me backlinks". Honestly, I would do the same 🤣

But I have 1 question to your response. The different email part, and names. That part I get it. But when you say Gmail, so that would be not using the same Gmail for like the web 2.0 platforms?  

Or should I make a new web 2.0 with on different Gmail? (yeah you were right I am a bit more confused the before 🤣)

So to explain what I mean is like. I create a new web 2.0 website I want to work with. So do I need to create a whole new Gmail for that website completely? Or just like a new email, that isn't really a Gmail, like the ones you can create on WA?

Now that I think of it, the Gmail option sounds easier, lol. 


   
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@jonathan Keep EVERYTHING SEPARATE

 

Your website - one email address and name

 

The web 2.0 properties are NOT YOU, YOU, JONATHAN, KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THEM... Ssssshhhhh!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

WordPress.com - a different email address and a different name

Wix - a different email address and a different name

Weebly - a different email address and a different name

Tumblr - a different email address and a different name

Blogspot - a different email address and a different name

 

Sshhh... DON'T TELL GOOGLE... it's NOT you, someone has created a website on a web 2.0 property and they linked to your website because they found it HELPFUL... aren't they sweet... sssshhhhhh!!!! IT'S NOT YOU (yes, WE know it's you, but don't tell GOOGLE)

 

You can't be confused after that!!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


   
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@partha Hmm, no I don't get it, do I need a whole new separate laptop, phone??? 🤣 

But, I will start creating new emails or Gmails. 


   
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Posted by: @partha

so just PRETEND that these are in bullet point format 🤣🤣🤣)

Ha ha ha! Great info here Partha, thanks! Link building is a lot of work, hey.

Have you ever done much with Wikipedia for backlinks? I signed up as an editor and started looking for broken links I could create an article around in order to cite it. Then the HCU happened and I went off the boil with WP.

I'm assuming the "keep it natural" mantra applies so for every link to my own property from WP I'm sure I'd need many more links out to pages I don't own.

As with most things link building ... it's a full-time job! At least, for quality links.

 


   
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@jonathan No, you just need separate emails and a name for yourself(like a nickname) when you use these platforms. For every platform, you'll need a different email and your secret name (your choice).


   
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If the Web 2.0 free "websites" you create are (wink) NOT you and you know NOTHING about them, then why are they foundational links and not editorial links? 

Does that make sense?

And if they are "NOT you and you know NOTHING about them" can you create more than one "website" on a given web 2.0 properties - WordPress.com, Weebly.com, Wix.com, Blogger.com, LiveJournal.com, Tumblr.com, TypedPad.com, WikiDot.com, Xing.com - or should it be one per property regardless.


   
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@cowboy I am not Partha, but my guess would be that the reason these links are more foundational than editorial is that the websites you create has 0 authority, which basically makes the links less powerful. (This was just a guess, correct me if I am wrong).


   
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Well, "your guess is as good as mine" as they say Smile We'll see. Looks like we are both interested in understanding this Smile

 


   
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@cowboy I guess you could view them as "editorial", but editorial backlinks would typically be from "real" authority websites, which usally would not be created on a free blogging platform but rather involve purchasing a domain and hosting.

 

As for creating more than one "website" on one given property, sure you can do that too, although this depends on how "hard" you want to hit this.

 

What I mean is, the "easy way" is to create websites on a number of web 2.0 platforms, get enough content on them to "help with getting them indexed" (5-10 articles) and then just have ONE LINK from each web 2.0 property to your website.

 

If you go the above route then have DIFFERENT web 2.0 properties every time.

 

However, if you want to go "big", and this was when I was thinking of Andy and his team of writers, you can actually create web 2.0 properties solely for backinks, but this would involve treating it like building a real website, so 100s of articles, having specific social media accounts JUST for that ONE web 2.0 property, so treat it in exactly the same way as you do your "real" websites.

 

Essentially, you're building up your web 2.0 property to be more "authoratitive" over a oeriod of years.

 

If you're doing the above, then there isn't an issue with "same web 2.0 platform", but personally, I like variety, and in reality, it is variety of backlinks that look more "natural" to Google and other search engines.

 

Plus, don't forget, you can "cheat" authority with web 2.0 properties, which can be done via the backlink packages I've spoken about in the Parasite SEO course.

 

So, just as an example, let's say you create a web 2.0 property and add 10 articles per month, you could then take the cheapest backlinks packages I offer ($8) and then get one of those eevry month, e.g. month 1 = web 2.0 and social/forum profile backinks, month 2 = 100 social media bookmarking backlinks, month 3 = .EDU backlinks, month 4 = wiki backlinks, etc.

 

By the end of 4 months that web 2.0 property would have more "authority" than option one above, i.e. build a web 2.0 property with 5-10 articels and then just move onto the next one.

 

Backlinks are what build authority, but you can also get backlinks to your backlinks (tier 2 backlinks) and even backlinks to your backlinks to your backlinks🤣🤣🤣 (tier 3 backlinks), so you're essentially making your backlinks stronger...

 

If this doesn't make sense, just say, I'm trying to think of an easier way to explain it!!!


   
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I think it makes sense. I've been reading all day ... so I'll reread tomorrow to be certain:)


   
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Posted by: @partha

However, if you want to go "big", and this was when I was thinking of Andy and his team of writers, you can actually create web 2.0 properties solely for backinks, but this would involve treating it like building a real website, so 100s of articles, having specific social media accounts JUST for that ONE web 2.0 property, so treat it in exactly the same way as you do your "real" websites.

Thinking 'big' ... we could even develop a piece of software to build out these web 2.0's for us. Not dissimilar to the SEO software I was dreaming about after a beer or two ... lol

https://digitalmatrixcafe.com/community/postid/2001494/  


   
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