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Ok, who wants to go through all this and summarize it, because it is giving me a headache hahahaha!

https://ipullrank.com/google-algo-leak

Might give it a try tomorrow, sleepy time for me!

Lizzy


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That was a very long read, and i got a headache too. In short google is being mean ( and i used that term loosely) to its users. From big to small but more small than big. A lot of information is redacted and a lot is exposed. My opinion says i should use a stronger word than "mean" but i rather remain legal. 

 


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In short (summarized by ChatGPT):

Summary of "Secrets from the Algorithm: Google Search’s Internal Engineering Documentation Has Leaked"

Mike King from iPullRank reveals insights from leaked internal Google Search documentation. This documentation, originally intended for Google's Content Warehouse API, was accidentally published and later fixed but remains available due to an automated documentation service. Key revelations include:

  1. Domain Authority Exists: Contrary to Google’s public statements, the documentation reveals a metric called "siteAuthority" used in the Q* ranking system.

  2. Clicks Impact Rankings: Documentation confirms that Google uses click data for ranking, specifically through systems like NavBoost and Glue, which adjust rankings based on user click behavior.

  3. Sandbox for New Sites: The "hostAge" attribute indicates a sandbox effect for fresh spam at serving time, contradicting Google’s claims.

  4. Chrome Data Used in Rankings: Metrics related to Chrome views are used, despite Google’s denial.

  5. Google's Ranking System Architecture: Google's search algorithm is a series of microservices rather than a single system, involving numerous components like Trawler (crawling), Alexandria (indexing), and Mustang (scoring).

  6. Twiddlers and Boosts: Twiddlers adjust document rankings post primary scoring. Systems like NavBoost, QualityBoost, and RealTimeBoost are examples of these re-ranking functions.

  7. Specific Ranking Factors:

    • Authors as a Feature: Authorship is explicitly stored and factored into rankings.
    • Demotions: Several factors can lead to demotions, including anchor mismatch, exact match domains, and poor navigation practices.
    • Links: Links remain crucial, with metrics tracking link velocity, source type, and homepage trust.
    • Content Length and Placement: Important content should be placed early as Google truncates documents.
    • Freshness and Dates: Various date metrics are tracked to ensure content relevance and freshness.
    • Video Content: Sites with more than 50% video content are treated differently.
  8. Actionable Insights for SEOs:

    • Focus on creating and promoting high-quality content.
    • Correlation studies and testing should be revived.
    • Understand your audience and make content accessible and promotable.
  9. Open Questions:

    • The potential link between the Helpful Content Update and a system referred to as "baby panda."
    • The meaning of NSR, possibly Neural Semantic Retrieval, related to semantic search.

King emphasizes that these documents validate long-held beliefs in the SEO community about how Google’s algorithms operate and highlights the importance of continuous testing and adapting SEO strategies based on these insights.

(Chat Thread)

Stay tuned for the loooonnnnnnnnngggggggggg answer from Partha 🤣 🤣 🤣 


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@andy lol oh im sure Partha would have more deep insights. I have a few choice words. But as i said in my post above, ill stay legal. I fired Google Site kit and their whole search engine months ago. 😆😆😆🤣


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WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL

I think it's time to kick the "Partha Arrogance and Narcissism" up a notch or two

"I TOLD YOU"

But, oh no, you don't listen to me, and you still truly believe outdated principles like:

"Aim to write 2-3 articles per week"

"Google is after the longtail"

"You don't need backlinks"

"Ai writers provide "helpful content" that will help you rank"

"Look at my new website that has garnered 400 clicks in 4 months" (even though Partha usually has around 4,000 clicks after 4 months on a new website)

"It's a marathon, not a sprint"

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah!!!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Let's cover a few of these:

Domain Authority Exists - I TOLD YOU - even though DA and DR are third-party metrics, Google has always had a page rank system, ranging from 1-10, which used to be visible during the 2000s, but because WE (yes, me, I was one) took advantage of this, the page rank system has been "hidden" for over 15 years. But, DOMAIN AUTHORITY MATTERS - I TOLD YOU!! 🤣

 

Clicks Impact Rankings - I TOLD YOU - In my "27 Google Talking Points" post I spoke about "clickthrough manipulation" working. This simply involves a branded search with keyword. So, if your website is called howtomakemoney .com and you have an article that targets the keyword, "How to Make Money With Affiliate Marketing", the "blackhat" version is CTR manipulation. We get a number of people from different parts of the world (different IP addresses) to search for

How to make Money With Affiliate Marketing + howtomakemoneyonline .com

IN GOOGLE

Then visit the article, spend some time on the article (2-3 minutes), click a link or two.

This is clickthrough manipulation (we can actually do this for someone here, we just need 35 of us, someone's website name and a chosen keyword, then 5 of us per day do a website + keyword search, spend time of that particular article, click a few links. We do this for 7 days in a row, so 5 x 7 = 35 people, and after a week that person will rank higher for that keyword!!!) There is software that does this, but typically costs about $300+ PER MONTH, but my old mate Stewart aka SEO Jesus is offering this for $49/month, but as I say, we can experiment doing this for FREE if we can get at least 35 of us on this platform together, and then follow my instructions.

 

LINKS - I TOLD YOU - Even though Google has removed the "important" from their documents about backlinks, WE KNOW THAT GOOGLE LIES. Backlinks are what create "authority".

I have recently written about BRANDING, my aim was to provide some websites to get profile bio links from, and this is also a service that my VAs offer, i.e. I will do you 100-300 BRANDED backlinks to your website for $XX.

Furthermore, "parasiting" off high Domain Authority sites will help to increase backlinks and authority (for those of you who have already paid $27 for my "parasite SEO course", you've done well, I'm raising the price to $47 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 WHY? Because it's over 15,000 words and has taken me around a week to write up, although I still have to add images and videos, etc. oh yeah, AND IT WORKS!!! 🤣🤣 (Ask @Diane, I gave her a keyword, and an affiliate program and left her to it. Diane being Diane, wrote the article IMMEDIATELY, and within LESS THAN A WEEK she is ranking number 5 in Google for that keyword). I TOLD YOU!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

Content Length and PLACEMENT - Who first told about "Answer Snippets", giving the answer to the query more or less IMMEDIATELY? Hmmm, I TOLD YOU. Answer the question posed by your article title in one paragraph of 40-70 words AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR ARTICLE. I TOLD YOU 🤣😂😂

 

FRESHNESS AND DATES - I TOLD YOU. Again, in my "27 Google" post I spoke about plugins that automatically republish content to the latest date, some plugins will use your ChatGPT OpenAi key to rewrite the first paragraph and then publish, some plugins will simply just publish your article at the most recent date, i.e. TODAY. And for YEARS, we were told this goes against Google's guidelines, and yet those "blackhatting" this are getting rankings. I TOLD YOU!!! 🤣🤣🤣

 

DEMOTIONS - I TOLD YOU!!! (I have made this mistake myself previously), but stop trying to get EXACT keywords in UNNATURALLY (on your website, still works for Parasite SEO on places like Medium, Linkedin, Reddit, and Quora, but your website has NO AUTHORITY, so you will be punished for doing this on your website), so stop trying to "get your keyword in certain places", stop having ALL your internal links with the EXACT keyword of the article you're linking too, and stop trying to get domain names that match a keyword exactly EXCEPT if you're doing LOCAL SEO (isn't that right, @Lebogang ? Hope you're doing well, and I hope you're still smashing it... someone else who spoke to me for 10 minutes, listened to what I said, went off and done it immediately, and saw success in LESS THAN A WEEK). I TOLD YOU!!! 🤣🤣🤣

 

CHROME DATA USED IN RANKINGS - I TOLD YOU!! Google may not understand what is really "helpful", I mean it's an "algorithm" and not a real person, BUT, they can understand content, and they can follow your online footprint through GOOGLE-RELATED SOFTWARE (this is why so many people DON'T USE Google Search Console or Google Analytics, but rather rely on 3rd party tools to do this)

 

It ALL comes down to the same thing

If you want to rank a website in Google, you need to appear to be a real business (branded backlinks, citations, ctr manioulation).

Your website needs authority to rank for even the easiest of "longtail keywords" in 2024 (backlinks or use Parasite SEO).

If your website is solely created around affiliate marketing or ad revenue you're going to struggle *that ship has sailed, hope you enjoyed the fantastic Google ride from 2013-2022), once more, you need to "appear" to be a "real business", so affiliate marketing and ad revenue should only be a small percentage of what your website is about (create tools, create a course, create an ebook, offer a service related to your niche within your website, create an ecommerce site to go with your blog, have an EDUCATIONAL (stop trying to sell all the time) newsletter attached to your website, create content on EXTERNAL platforms EVERY SINGLE DAY, e.g. Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, Pinterest, Reddit, Quora, Linkedin, Medium, Google Groups, Microsoft Forums, Niche-Related Forums, etc.)

 

I could go on forever, but I'm sure what I've said so far will create LOTS OF QUESTIONS!

So, I'll leave this for now, and will answer any questions you have.

Oh yeah, and before I forget

I TOLD YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

Posted by: @andy

In short (summarized by ChatGPT):

Summary of "Secrets from the Algorithm: Google Search’s Internal Engineering Documentation Has Leaked"

Mike King from iPullRank reveals insights from leaked internal Google Search documentation. This documentation, originally intended for Google's Content Warehouse API, was accidentally published and later fixed but remains available due to an automated documentation service. Key revelations include:

  1. Domain Authority Exists: Contrary to Google’s public statements, the documentation reveals a metric called "siteAuthority" used in the Q* ranking system.

  2. Clicks Impact Rankings: Documentation confirms that Google uses click data for ranking, specifically through systems like NavBoost and Glue, which adjust rankings based on user click behavior.

  3. Sandbox for New Sites: The "hostAge" attribute indicates a sandbox effect for fresh spam at serving time, contradicting Google’s claims.

  4. Chrome Data Used in Rankings: Metrics related to Chrome views are used, despite Google’s denial.

  5. Google's Ranking System Architecture: Google's search algorithm is a series of microservices rather than a single system, involving numerous components like Trawler (crawling), Alexandria (indexing), and Mustang (scoring).

  6. Twiddlers and Boosts: Twiddlers adjust document rankings post primary scoring. Systems like NavBoost, QualityBoost, and RealTimeBoost are examples of these re-ranking functions.

  7. Specific Ranking Factors:

    • Authors as a Feature: Authorship is explicitly stored and factored into rankings.
    • Demotions: Several factors can lead to demotions, including anchor mismatch, exact match domains, and poor navigation practices.
    • Links: Links remain crucial, with metrics tracking link velocity, source type, and homepage trust.
    • Content Length and Placement: Important content should be placed early as Google truncates documents.
    • Freshness and Dates: Various date metrics are tracked to ensure content relevance and freshness.
    • Video Content: Sites with more than 50% video content are treated differently.
  8. Actionable Insights for SEOs:

    • Focus on creating and promoting high-quality content.
    • Correlation studies and testing should be revived.
    • Understand your audience and make content accessible and promotable.
  9. Open Questions:

    • The potential link between the Helpful Content Update and a system referred to as "baby panda."
    • The meaning of NSR, possibly Neural Semantic Retrieval, related to semantic search.

King emphasizes that these documents validate long-held beliefs in the SEO community about how Google’s algorithms operate and highlights the importance of continuous testing and adapting SEO strategies based on these insights.

(Chat Thread)

Stay tuned for the loooonnnnnnnnngggggggggg answer from Partha 🤣 🤣 🤣 

 


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@partha I am supposed to be completing finals and home work at this time. I am totally side tracked 🤣🤣🤣. I am now creating a new free website and will use your methods.


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@partha Count me in on the CTR manipulation group.

Also, where was this parasite SEO course hidden?


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Posted by: @lebogang22

@partha Count me in on the CTR manipulation group.

Also, where was this parasite SEO course hidden?

Same here on both things. Seemed to have missed the course as well?

 


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@ohnoo_not_her Sounds good, re CTR manipulation... and course, if you see my replies to Lebogang and Pete (it's the same reply copy and pasted, hahahaha!!), hopefully that will all make sense.


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@lebogang22 We'll see how many people we get for CTR manipulation, as 35 would be the absolute minimum, but realistically, you probably need about 20 different people on 10 different days (200 people total, hence why people use software or services to do it), but let's see how many we get and go from there. If we try it on a page that s already ranked fairly well (top 20), it should make a difference with just 35 of us.

As for the Parasite SEO, that is something I mentioned in this thread>>

However, I then realised that there was no way I could get all the information across in a one-hour "chat".

So, the "$27 for a one-hour chat" has now changed to - I've written everything out in the form of a number of blog posts (still publishing), so this is like a "course", but really, just me writing like I usually do 🤣🤣 but with lots of instructions, images, videos, etc. So, basically, the "$27" gets you access to the entire "blog post course", and obviously you can chat with me, ask quesitons, ask for recommendations, feedback, etc. as well.

So, rather than just "One chat", you can follow along the "course" at your own speed and just ask me whatever you want, whenever you want.


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@partha The arrogant Cockney has returned from his seaside shuffle!

Just to confirm what Partha said, I created a 1500-word review of a popular music generation program and added it to LinkedIn and Medium. 

It is the version on Medium that is currently ranking number 5 in Google, after only 6 days.

No sales yet, but I am confident that will come in time.

If anybody is struggling to complete the very long list of tasks that Partha has stated is necessary EVERY SINGLE DAY, drop me a message and if appropriate, I will offer a tailored package to suit you.


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@diane So you are adding actual affiliate links on both channels? I was thinking about just giving up on my English Africa site, after I translated a bunch of articles in Dutch which are my personal articles only, but maybe in this way, I can still make money with the original one. It's still all a bit confusing to me, to be honest.And I'm already doing a thousand things ,driving me crazy indeed hahaha. 
If I would contact you later for this site, would I still need to keep its "content fresh" in the meantime or no need to? I just can't keep up right now with 3 sites and a Youtube channel and a Pinterest account where I adapt my DIY videos for, my FB groups and page, and I'm even on TikTOk now, trying to reach for those 1000 followers,etc..

thanks!


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@ohnoo_not_her Yes, and no, as regards affiliate links!

Within the Medium post - yes, a direct affiliate link, there is no problem with this, although you do have to mention that you earn a commission, as you might expect.  

And then, once you have published it, it gives you the option to automatically send it to LinkedIn.

So, you can cover two platforms with the same content.

If you look at my LinkedIn account, you will see it adds a link to the post on Medium, so I am not actually adding the affiliate link.

So, there are several benefits of doing this.

You can use Medium to send traffic to your website, to earn from affiliate links, and if you join their Partner Program, earn money when your posts are read.

And the posts currently rank highly in Google - the Parasite SEO affect, because Medium has high authority.

And a similar story on LinkedIn - the posts can rank highly in Google and can also send traffic to your Medium account where you get paid for somebody reading it!

It's a win-win! 

As regards your website, you might want to just add a new post every week, just to keep it "alive" in the search engines. 

But, obviously, it needs more traction from social media. 

Your Pinterest has a reasonable amount of monthly views, but unfortunately, it's the kind of platform where you need to post every day.

Or, create a ton of pins in one go, and then schedule them out.

(Your video pins don't have any audio, by the way)

Obviously, we have spoken before about having me create and post pins to your account, so, just give me a shout whenever you are ready for this, or anything else I could potentially help you with.

And, of course, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook require consistent, regular content. 

Not easy, is it?

But, I would certainly give Medium a go, and you can import your posts from your websites, with very little work.

Edited: You know I love playing with images, so I couldn't resist creating these fun pins!

Use them, if you wish!

 

 


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Posted by: @diane

 

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@ohnoo_not_her Yes, and no, as regards affiliate links!

Within the Medium post - yes, a direct affiliate link, there is no problem with this, although you do have to mention that you earn a commission, as you might expect.  

And then, once you have published it, it gives you the option to automatically send it to LinkedIn.

So, you can cover two platforms with the same content.

If you look at my LinkedIn account, you will see it adds a link to the post on Medium, so I am not actually adding the affiliate link.

So, there are several benefits of doing this.

==> thanks

You can use Medium to send traffic to your website, to earn from affiliate links, and if you join their Partner Program, earn money when your posts are read.

And the posts currently rank highly in Google - the Parasite SEO affect, because Medium has high authority.

==> I'm sure of it, and I'm currently doing this with my miniatures site, but I do think this will have lots more effect with my Africa site, because when researching something for my miniature niche, no result ever from Medium or LinkedIn.

And a similar story on LinkedIn - the posts can rank highly in Google and can also send traffic to your Medium account where you get paid for somebody reading it!

It's a win-win! 

As regards your website, you might want to just add a new post every week, just to keep it "alive" in the search engines. 

==> yes, and this is where I am having a time-issue now hahaha,as with the socials from this english site. ( I am already doing it all for my miniatures and darn it takes so much time)

But, obviously, it needs more traction from social media. 

==> yeah, I realize this,and I also need to start working on socials if I want my Dutch site to succeed, *sigh hahaha

Your Pinterest has a reasonable amount of monthly views, but unfortunately, it's the kind of platform where you need to post every day.

Or, create a ton of pins in one go, and then schedule them out.

(Your video pins don't have any audio, by the way)

Obviously, we have spoken before about having me create and post pins to your account, so, just give me a shout whenever you are ready for this, or anything else I could potentially help you with.

==> yeah, depends on my budget, as I am already working with Partha for Reddit hahaha

And, of course, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook require consistent, regular content. 

Not easy, is it?

But, I would certainly give Medium a go, and you can import your posts from your websites, with very little work.

==> ( It is a lot of work for my miniatures site though, because of the multiple images and videos I use for it. I know, it's a niche that takes quite some time on every angle lol)

Edited: You know I love playing with images, so I couldn't resist creating these fun pins!

Use them, if you wish!

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==> these are marvelous thanks!

 

 

 


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@partha I am up for helping with the CTR manipulation group too

The $27 course is this something you give out during the hour chat or something different as planning to give you a shout to try and organise a meeting in next couple of weeks

Love the info here but cant keep up with everything going on 😀 😀 😀 


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@petedr93 Hey Pete, 

It's easier (and more lazy, sorry, lol) to just copy my reply to Lebogang here:

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We'll see how many people we get for CTR manipulation, as 35 would be the absolute minimum, but realistically, you probably need about 20 different people on 10 different days (200 people total, hence why people use software or services to do it), but let's see how many we get and go from there. If we try it on a page that s already ranked fairly well (top 20), it should make a difference with just 35 of us.

As for the Parasite SEO, that is something I mentioned in this thread>>

However, I then realised that there was no way I could get all the information across in a one-hour "chat".

So, the "$27 for a one-hour chat" has now changed to - I've written everything out in the form of a number of blog posts (still publishing), so this is like a "course", but really, just me writing like I usually do 🤣🤣 but with lots of instructions, images, videos, etc. So, basically, the "$27" gets you access to the entire "blog post course", and obviously you can chat with me, ask quesitons, ask for recommendations, feedback, etc. as well.

So, rather than just "One chat", you can follow along the "course" at your own speed and just ask me whatever you want, whenever you want.


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@partha Hi Partha, In regards to freshness and dates, how do we handle the comments on our old blog posts as they will show a much older date if we republish that post to today's date?


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@jenny Jenny, cos I know you, I've got 3 words for you

 

DON'T DO IT!!!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

Okay, realistically, if you were being "squeaky clean" and "going by the rules" ("the rules", which we are now starting to see are pretty much made up to suit what Google wants) then you would only change the date if you made a "major change" to that blog post.

Then, in keeping with being "squeaky clean" you may have a note so that your readers understand why there are comments on an earlier date than publication (I would argue that most niches outside of MMO/affiliate marketing, i.e. WE/US/affiliate marketers are "trained" to "spot" these things, but most "non MMO people" won't even realise, even if/when they do read the comments), OR, I know that you write in the "updated date" on your posts, so you changed that to "originally published".

OR

Simply, don't change the date on the blog post and let readers know the "updated date" whenever you make a "major change" to that blog post.

The above is the "squeaky clean", "I'm by the book, Google, I love you,please give me my traffic back!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 version of how to do things.

The main plugins used to do this are NOT following "Google's guidelines", i.e DON'T try to manipulate "freshness" of your content by changing the published date WITHOUT increasing the "value" of the blog post!!

How's following Google's rules thus far working out for ya?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 (I'm not laughing AT you, I've had sites absolutely decimated over the last 21 months)

Anyway, so one plugin is RevivePress, you can use it for free, and the paid version, about $29/year, you can republish blog ppsts to today's date and it will automatically share the post to Twitter/X and Linkedin (the free version just republishes blog posts to today's date, NO sharing).

So, a lot of people are setting it to one hour frequency, having 24 articles republished per day, while spamming the hell out of Twitter/X and Linkedin 🤣🤣🤣🤣 with 48 "shares" in total EVERY 24 HOURS... and seeing their rankings in Google IMPROVE (it won't last forever, LOL).

And the other one is Jacky Chou from Indexy, his Revive .so 

I think it's $29 per month (and $99/month for unlimited websites), and you put your ChatGPT/Open AI key into it, and then it with republish blog posts to today's date and rewrite the first paragrah of every republish. BUT, no sharing to social media, it just rewrites the first paragraph.

If you're doing THIS then you're really not worried about the blog post publish date and the comments date, you're simply trying to "manipulate" freshness.

So, "squeaky clean" and "by the book", NO, don't do it, just be aware that those who are... it's improving rankings... (again, I will say, for NOW!)

Now, STOP shaking your head, moaning about the length of the reply, while laughing!!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

p.s. the plugins could stop working after a while with "some hosting", as  some hosts may have some type of caching that blocks scheduling plugins, so you may need to speak to your hosting support!!


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@partha Wow, Partha do you talk this much in real life?!! 😆😆

I do appreciate your response and for sharing the plugins.

For now I will hold off on manipulating freshness and will stick to my squeaky clean method, which is revamping my old blog posts as many of them need a complete overhaul and sticking to the updated date at the top of the blog post, then sharing them to social media.

 


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@partha Hi Partha,

As my articles don't appear on SERP anymore, I don't care about Google and concentrate on other forms of traffic, like you said. YouTube is the only one doing well, but I can't put backlinks to my site while I'm new. Pinterest is giving me very few clicks, is not even worth mentioning it. The same Flipboard. On Medium my articles are not read at all.

I would like to ask you a few questions regarding what you just wrote.

1. Fresh published date- When I was updating old articles, on some of them I changed the published date, but not on many as I was worried about manual penalty from Google. So how is it? Should I do it or not? Will my website not be totally penalized for that?

2. How do I get backlinks to my site? I always did it through guest posts but takes a long time and I had DA 17, now dropped to 12. What exactly is this Parasite SEO and the backlinks you are talking about? Is it the Black Hat way and can your website be punished eventually for that?

I will be attending a course for Pinterest and Facebook pages in the coming months, so I'm hoping to move on. So far only YouTube is my hope.

Thank you so much for clarification

Nat


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@nat Just a quick note about Youtube when you're new. You can get verified with your ID or face recognition and then you can place your links on it, you don't need to wait for this. BUT make sure to use face identification with your phone, because the ID identification is horrible, got rejected twice and then you need to wait another month to try again. Don't make the same frustration mistake I made haha!

Lizzy


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@ohnoo_not_her Hello Lizzy,

Really? I didn't know that. I thought YouTube would punish you if you placed the links as they want people to stay on Youtube and not go outside.

So where do you do that? I went through all the settings just now and didn't find anything like this.

Thank you

Nat

Edit: What I found now is that you can add links inside the videos if you are a verified YouTube partner. But to apply you have to have 4k watched hours and 1k subscribers.

I added links in the description before, but I was told not to do it at the beginning until I'm monetizing as YouTube can punish you for that.


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Posted by: @nat

@ohnoo_not_her Hello Lizzy,

Really? I didn't know that. I thought YouTube would punish you if you placed the links as they want people to stay on Youtube and not go outside.

So where do you do that? I went through all the settings just now and didn't find anything like this.

Thank you

Nat

Edit: What I found now is that you can add links inside the videos if you are a verified YouTube partner. But to apply you have to have 4k watched hours and 1k subscribers.

I added links in the description before, but I was told not to do it at the beginning until I'm monetizing as YouTube can punish you for that.

 

So, I think there is some confusion here.

- To monetize with ads, you need those watchhours and subscribers indeed, my miniature channel is like that, and from the beginning of monetizing, and even before, I already placed affiliate links (you need to mention it is an affiliate link) and links to my site.

- But I have an Africa channel, with only 65 subscribers, purely meant as a backlink to my africa site, for one, and so I can embed my own videos as well on my blog. This one can not make money with adds, but I do place links in the description below and my blog link in my bio. This latter you can only do if you are verified.
How did I get verified? (so NOT for making money with adds?). If I remember well, I tried to add a link in the description, after I uploaded a video, and then I got the message to 'get verified' , so that Youtube trusts who you are as you say you are to place links. 
I don't remember exactly where I want in the settings though, but I'm sure you can find plenty videos for doing that : https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+get+your+youtube+channel+verified

At the least, you should be able to already place a link to your blog in your bio, no?

I've done it all the time, not sure who told you to not do it?

( If I remember well, Eric from the other platform, also told us to do this and go ahead, BUT you need to be verified now first. My older Youtube channel this wasn't the case still)

Lizzy

 

 


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@ohnoo_not_her Yea I think I'm verified through phone number and can add links to descriptions and Bio.

In Bio is ok, but on one course I took they told us not to put links to our website in the description of the videos as Youtube can punish us because they don't want people to leave YouTube.

Thank you

Nat


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As soon as I saw this Headline, I came here to look for something more than a headache. 

Posted by: @andy

 

  • Content Length and Placement: Important content should be placed early as Google truncates documents.
  • Freshness and Dates: Various date metrics are tracked to ensure content relevance and freshness.

 

The first thing I saw was that "authors" were key.  This is something I just took care of on Kindle.  I am now published. I am an author who is an author!

Then it was the content length & placement. 

So much for "Let me tell you the story about why I decided to write this long AF post about How to Master...  " Google says to dismiss the formalities of a great introduction and get straight to the point.  I don't have time for this BS I'm drowning in AI-generated garbage, get to the F***in point!  

Sorry if my eyes glazed over, but was hoping to hear from our resident Blackhat if he had a chance to digest more of this.

 


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@mrdon im waiting on the King of Content himself. I think this would very much get a few nice Partha style remarks and comments plus two field goals and a football field of insults as only Partha knows how to do.


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I agree with Kida on this one. I’m reluctant to spend my time trying to generate traffic via Google. I prefer to focus my energy on other sources of traffic and treat Google as an additional source that will develop over time as my authority grows and my site ages.


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