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 Roy
(@roy)
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I left WA for more than a year ago and moved what I had over to WPX or back to One. It was the best choice I have made since I started fiddling around with blogs and affiliate marketing.

For me it was pure relief to leave WA even if it meant to «leave» people I cared about and consider as a part of my network.

WA basically killed my interest for blogging and online marketing

I know this is not any advice that I am giving you Roy, but if you are considering leaving WA for another hosting provider, it is probably because yoúre not quite happy with WA.

If that is the case go for it, and I would highly recommend WPX as others do. They are great, and their hosting has never giving me any surprises or worries.

Currently my sites are in maintenance mode as I am changing several things around at the same time related to my online efforts. 

Good luck no matter what you choose Roy.

 

 

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(@RoyBretton)
Joined: 1 year ago

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@roy Hello Roy,

Thank you for taking the time to read my question, it's appreciated.

That's hard to believe that you left Wealthy Affiliate a year ago; that's gone quickly!

I know where you’re coming from, Roy; you have probably made some very good connections within the Wealthy Affiliate community. Why did Wealthy Affiliate kill your interest for blogging and online marketing? Were you spending too long on the platform and getting sidetracked or demotivated?

I would have definitely thought about WPX hosting, however, I already have a dedicated server, which I’m happy with at the moment.

In fairness to Wealthy Affiliate, the platform offers reasonable value for money. I do know that it’s not perfect, but I will probably carry on for another 12 months.

All the best to you.

Roy

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 Roy
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@RoyBretton in response to what WA did to kill my interest, it was not all due to them. Of course there was parts of me as well trying to do too much at the same time, spreading myself thin.

But Andy has explained most of it, lack of transparency, poor training and services you got access to that was not aligned with the price tiers, hosting that got poorer and poorer with site support that didn’t have the knowledge or didn’t want to help you with even simple problems.

When they decided to restrict plugins we could use on our own websites, without any warning beforehand, I decided to leave. The worst thing was Kyle’s explanation that all serious hosting providers do the same thing, which is not true.

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(@RoyBretton)
Joined: 1 year ago

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@roy Good morning Roy,

Thank you for your response, it’s appreciated.

I think we can all be guilty of trying to do too much at the same time. Eric made a short video on the subject a couple of weeks ago about people trying to do too much rather than focusing on one website at a time.

I must admit I have always found the hosting poor at Wealthy Affiliate, along with website support. They should really say that the hosting is really just to get you started and off the ground. When I was using the hosting several years ago, I was losing huge amounts of traffic as Wealthy Affiliate was limiting my usage. As soon as I changed my hosting to a dedicated server, everything changed for the better.

All the best.

Roy

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(@keydah_keys)
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Hi, Roy, I just recently came back to WA to save my website and to find a decently price hosting platform to transfer it out too. Everything here confuses me with this new WA. It almost resembles to me at least, YouTube. I see they have helpful short videos and a lot of other new stuff. The writer thing, i am not going to lie, I do not use it except for helping me create outlines and title ideas. since i am getting my B.B.A and Associates in Digital Marketing this feels like a lot of people will be heart broken. I had to learn the different ways of research, fundamentals of marketing and the psychology. 

It would appear to me, base off of what you have said that those who are new to this field do not have the time or do not want to make time to do this the human way. I have only been back for 2 days so, i havent seen the ai posts yet. Im restructuring my website now, so that is where my focus is. But yeaaaa...my professors would literally have their post and write ups for breakfast. 

They are not against Ai tools but against the abuse of them and using the ai tools as a crutch or dependency because said student doesn't want to use their brain and wants everything easy. This does not help one learn how to implement the fundamentals of marketing on their own but it just gives half or partial answers as i have come to find out myself.

None of the tools are perfect. So, I would have to agree with you. The Ai deal is over saturating the market and way over used for quick answers and write ups. It also gives the feeling of a "get rich quick scheme" through Ai. People are getting desperate now a days for money as the economy in the usa and the world over tightens and get worse. 

All people like you can do Roy is warn them about their mistakes and it is up to that person to listen or dont. If you like the environment you are around then stay. If the Ai articles and post are ruining the platform for you then make your decision to leave or stay and not respond to those write ups.

 

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 Rudy
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Joined: 1 year ago

Here's the latest on my exit from WA.

I transferred all pertinent websites, and deleted the others. I can always create a either one,  a curse at times, lol, and how I got to have so many...

I transferred those websites to WPX, and transferred my domains as well.

Once moved, backuo links created and sent, I went to my profile to cancel my subscription.

Lo and behold, there was a questionnaire waiting for me, and I politely gave them my thoughts and suggestions.

I proceeded to post a Farewell and only one person left a comment. I found that surprising, yet the traffic slows a bit on the weekends, so no biggie.

However, when hours had passed, and still no emails with comments, instead I received comments to a previous post, with comments telling me that the farewell post was gone, disappeared.

Did they do the same thing to you, Diane, when you created your post to let people know you had csncelled your subscription and were leaving WA?

Not only did they pull my post, I asked a general question, why was my post deleted, and apparently that was also pulled.

Nowhere in the communications with Carson or Kyle was I informed that my access would be minimized to only my website manager access.

They did not say that my communications with the community were restricted in any way, yet, I'm being punished for writing anything, even though my last day is the 29th of Nov.

I will be retrieving some of my posts and all of my trainings to reuse somehow...

Fortunately,  I still have access to private messages and have privately contacted a few friends I've made at WA.

Many of you are already here....grin.

 

Rudy

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(@keydah_keys)
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@rudy I recently came back to save my website from deletion and to peek around and look into the new features. 

I don’t know if this feels this way to you Rudy, but this new WA platform feels a bit like YouTube. Especially with all of the Ai guard bots running free. 

I didn’t see your post either, the one that was deleted or hidden. Crazy how WA has changed so, and not for the better. 

As soon as I get some free money I’ll be transferring my site from WA as well. 

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 Rudy
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@keydah_keys -

Yeah, instead of investing and hire people who really know what to do, they seemingly try to do everything themselves, and the rinsing isn't removing the guck anymore.

(Rinse, repeat)

My 'That's All folks' post ( a la Warner brothers cartoon ending...grin) simply stated that I was leaving after 5 years, and I shared some trinkets of the things learned while being there at WA.

On to better things!

 

 

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Admin
(@diane)
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@rudy My post wasn't deleted, but it certainly didn't appear in the Top 10, and I suspect it wasn't sent out as a notification to my followers.

That was 3 months ago, and a lot of long-term members have left since then, and I presume it's not sending out the right message!  

It wouldn't surprise me if they are now deleting all "farewell" posts and effectively silencing people, in case they are asked why by other members they are leaving!

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 Rudy
(@rudy)
Joined: 1 year ago

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@diane -

Yeah, I even asked a question, and that got deleted as well. Too bad they feel so threatened that they have to delete comments...

If that is a problem, then they need to stipulate that as art of the exit plan. Otherwise, I'm sitting idle for 12 more days if I can't post or ask a question.

I have posted a few comments, as far as I know, those still remain.

WA provided me with a survey/questionnaire as part of the exit, on why I was leaving, so I told them...maybe they didn't like what I said...I was nice...grin.

Anyway, All my sites are moved, rather easily once I understood the process, every host is different...And I'm happy that my sites are up and running...

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(@ohnoo_not_her)
Joined: 1 year ago

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@rudy you were kind of "lucky" hahaha, I got silence banned just like that, without giving me the reason why, and I couldn't even dm anyone any longer. (I had payed until next year)
I even had to ask Andy here to respond to one of my last dm's, in my name. That was horrible. A 'community' is useless if they even make it impossible for you to ask something or to respond or criticize something. 

Again, the only one I thought who was able to answer a sincere question or specify something or add another short video to clear something up, was Vitaly. The only one who took my observations and tips on a topic as well and even wasn't too arrogant to think that he was the only 'expert' in the field on something specific. His case studies were also very interesting.

The others like Kyle, Carson and Jay, often were very 'dedain' to me. 
Claiming something that I needed to do for my niche, while they didn't know my niche at all, and their 'advice' simply wouldn't work for me. 

Under the belt, lots of things had been said to me and others in the last year, it was a horrific experience, all because they don't want to take the criticism to their hosting. That message appearing still on new people's sites is something one never sees elsewhere, it's bloody annoying lol.

Anyway, you'll see: changing to WPX is a very good move!
Lizzy

 

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(@nemira)
Joined: 1 year ago

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@rudy Hi, Rudy. Can you tell me your WA member's name? I was curious to find you, but being mostly absent in WA, I was not able to locate you. I checked Diane's farewell post, and her current contact information (this place) is there.

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 Rudy
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@nemira - sure....1Rudy1 is my WA handle.

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(@nemira)
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@rudy Thank you:) Yes, there is no farewell post. Strange things are going on.

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Andy
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 Andy
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So I had to go straight to the source and ask if it was okay to write a farewell post. This is how the conversation went down:

I think this just solidifies what we all already knew - because this is an open forum, Kyle (and/or others) are reading everything that is here.

Suffice it to say, I don't think they are allowing 'farewell' posts any more, and if they are, definitely not from any one who has created a profile here on this site.

Kyle, when you read this - everything that I've said to you and about WA I stand behind - even within the comments and telling you that you guys taught me how to initially make money. Really, thanks for that.

Having said that though, the reason we have all left (and here is some constructive criticism) is because you chose not to change during the times, and so we all had to pivot and change without you.

I have yet to see you guys issue any sort of apology for anything, and every time you do have an issue, you sweep it under the rug. If that's how you want to run your company, that's fine, but that's not a business model I want to be a part of (or tell others to be a part of).

If you fix your hosting, actually teach things that are beneficial to your audience, and are transparent with BOTH all the 'new coming changes" as well as all the issues that have happened, then I would consider promoting you or at least talking about you guys in a positive light. Until then, I'll promote something else, and/or create my own site how to teach others to make money.

But in any regard, I digress. Just my two cents as usual.

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 Rudy
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@andy -

Slagging? He said Slagging? What an ASSumption...I haven't seen any bad mouthing of W, only true statements about their practices.

I offered my suggestions as well, to what effect, who knows.

Slagging? Geez...I can't believe he said that in LIVE CHAT..

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(@ohnoo_not_her)
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@andy of course they are reading along hahahahahaha!

Hi Kyle, hi Carson (who never spoke on the platform until I 'slagged' the hosting hahaha), hi Jay ( be "nice" hahahaha! )

So guys, while you're reading this: ( I was too frustrated/busy to expand on this when I unsubscribed this week). Please consider these things:

- get rid of the message of people hosted on WA saying something like 'browser security check': it looks VERY UNPROFESSIONAL and isn't seen anywhere else=> this might cost people traffic

- Please FIX the "this is a dangerous website" issue, I never ever saw this since moving to WPX: again, this is costing people traffic!

- Please fix your site support, they are slow and sometimes when they responded: 'we will forward this message and come back to you", I didn't hear from you for days or even weeks.

- Telling people that they can not use WP rocket and even blocking it, isn't good marketing for your hosting either, literally no one else does this. 
Also, when you can't use WP rocket, but in your niche, you need lots of images/video's, your hosting speed gets unbearably low ( like into the red zone on mobile, even to 30% ). 

Especially once you get over a hundred blog posts, it slows down, let alone when we place Ads on our site, the user experience goes way down (it isn't our fault that Google still thinks that the whole world still doesn't have high-speed internet yet)

- the platform needs way better and more information about how to make money with ads on your site, instead of just using affiliate marketing. For example: I had to find out myself that Mediavine now has "Journey", and I making more money with it than ever before in those 5 years on WA! 

- making seem like someone like Abbie is 'helpful' for the platform, like she is representing it or something, doesn't actually look too good on your business. I would suggest creating a separate 'top blog posts' section on your platform, that clearly mentions that it is just for chatting about life and others, and have a separate 'top blog posts' section about learning how to make money, only.
At the moment, everything is mixed up, and again: it doesn't look professional at all. Ever since "Abbie" started to respond to everyone and everything, just to get the Ambassador status, things went downhill and started to annoy the hell out of me.

- just having one or sometimes 2 extra premium plus classes per week for a lot more money, doesn't cut the costs, especially when you are already more advanced.

- there were a LOT of things I still needed to find out on my own, like how to manage a FB group, while Jay just basically said 'don't bother', it is making my newsletter subscriptions rise! So yes, do BOTHER! And please don't claim incorrect things on your platform, like the Amazon images!

I hope this is 'nicer' now from my end, but sometimes I need to have a good old-fashioned cursing and not-being-so-nice, just to get through to people. I know I'm not always the 'polite' one, lol. (and that probably got me silence banned hahaha)

Lizzy

 

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